14 July 2006

Brief quiz.

I hope you all had a good fast. (I did too).

Lets see if you've been paying attention.

What do you think it was it that caused me to see things in a different light?

A) I was not scholastically accomplished as a child and was not provided with a proper tutor.
This would be the theory proposed by Faranak Margolese in 'Off The Derech'.

B) I was sexually abused by my Camp Counselor or Rebbe.
This would be the belief of Unorthodox Jew.

C) I was exposed to The Godol Hador of Blogging. This would be postulated by Godol Hador's critics.

D) I could not resist the temptations of my Friends Wive's
throwing themselves at me. (Don't worry, the image is safe even for the Yated Neeman and the Modia). This would be the explanation of Chazal who state "Lo Uvdo Avoda Zarah Ela Lhatir Lahem Arayos".

E) All of the above.

F) None of the above.

In case you don't know, the answer will be published next week. God Willing.

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    At July 14, 2006 8:12 AM, Blogger happywithhislot said...


    At July 14, 2006 10:00 AM, Blogger Baal Habos said...

    Happy, it took me a while to get that. I thought, you mis-posted. I see you scored 100%.

    Shabbat Shalom

    At July 14, 2006 11:52 AM, Blogger Moshe Kappoya said...

    G) No one can figure me out, even I don't know the answer!

    "I'll take G for $400 Alex."


    Have a great Shabbos!

    At July 14, 2006 1:24 PM, Blogger Baal Habos said...


    I'll have to think about that one. BTW, I left a comment on your blog. I say be careful and go for it.

    At July 14, 2006 2:24 PM, Blogger Irviner Chasid said...

    I'm going to go with Z.

    You have read more secular books than you have Torah books. :P

    At July 14, 2006 2:45 PM, Blogger Baal Habos said...

    Chasib, interesting theory. But "GONG"

    I've done alot more learning in my life than secular reading.

    I see you're using your thinking cap, because you're on the right path though.

    At July 14, 2006 3:36 PM, Blogger Irviner Chasid said...

    I'm doing a though experiment here, so if its way off base, don't shoot me.

    Is it possible that you have studied more "types" of secular studies than you have "types" of Torah studies?

    This is where my thought exeperment comes in.


    Chumash, Rishonim, Mishna, Talmud,
    Kabbalah, Chasidus, Halacha, Musar,
    Hashkafa, History. - 10 topics.


    Now here there are a few ways of dividing it up.
    Pop-Culture, Science, Literature, Psychology, Arts, Music, Religions

    Or if it just science, then you have
    Biology, pyschology, chemistry, physics, astronomy,.. comment is getting too long for its own good. I'll just stop now

    At July 14, 2006 3:50 PM, Blogger Baal Habos said...

    I Chasid (has a nice ring to it, like I, Robot),

    It's about even. But I certainly spent way more Time on Jewish subjects, especially counting all time listening to Rabbi's speeches, shiurim, etc.

    I also spend much less time on the "soft subjects" such as Philosophy, Kabbala.

    At July 14, 2006 4:20 PM, Blogger Irviner Chasid said...

    Did you spend less time on soft subjects because of exposer or because of lack of interest?

    I Chasid does sound cool, but thats putting Chasid on the map, not Irvine!

    At July 14, 2006 4:34 PM, Blogger Baal Habos said...

    IC, Less exposure because of less Interest. I'm not into Psychobabble and stuff like that.

    Anyone can say anything and get away with it whether or not there's truth to it. I guess it's because it's all speculation.

    For e.g. When I was younger I was so impressed with Derech Hashem; when I got older, I realized it all sounds good, but no-one really has a clue whether it's true or not. Anyone can create their own "model" of the world and it's relation to the physical, but it's sheer speculation. I stay away from it now.

    At July 14, 2006 6:05 PM, Blogger Irviner Chasid said...

    Thats a shame, because even though anyone can make anything sound good, not everyone can.

    What I mean is, all the books work together, they all basically say the same thing with different levels of nuance and different styles of analogy.

    I have read lots of Tarot, Pagan, wiccan, magic, cabalah (chirstain Kabbalah) and they all say great things and they are all self contained, but none of them match with eachother, and when I try to reconcile them I find myself using Jewish sources to make the reconciliation, and not thier own sources.

    But when you read Derech Hashem, or Duties of the Heart, or Twirsky, or Kaplan, or the Bahir, Sefer Yetzirah, Path of the Just, the Talmud.. they all fit.

    Imagine reading the Chumash with only Ramban, or reading about Science with only looking at Newtonian physicis and not reading about Einstein physics. Its not something one can do.

    At July 14, 2006 6:06 PM, Blogger Irviner Chasid said...

    Bleh, I clicked the button too soon.

    Anyways, when I read things on the net, I am now able to tell where the author is comming from and can quite quickly disern which is real and which is psychobable. Not because I'm so smart, but because I've been exposed to lots of sources and can now recognize styles.

    At July 15, 2006 11:08 PM, Blogger Baal Habos said...

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    At July 15, 2006 11:11 PM, Blogger Moshe Kappoya said...

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    At July 16, 2006 10:28 PM, Blogger lakewoodyid said...

    >F) None of the above.

    Post some good stuff that we can debate about.

    At July 17, 2006 7:19 PM, Blogger Baal Habos said...

    LY, truthfully I'm not looking for debate on the issues you are. See my post on Come with me, little neshamala.

    I'm looking to discuss other issues on this blog.

    But I always welcome any Truthfully, I'm still ambivalent about yours though ;)

    At July 21, 2006 10:46 AM, Blogger Irviner Chasid said...

    Its been more than a week! Wheres our answer?


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